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And it will make it to SCOTUS, and if they ignore or reject it, we have every excuse to start a rebellion . Please tell me this is feasible & our next action.
Thanks Popok for explaining this to us on Legal AF. I hope that this new suit gets back to the Supreme Court and they find that their initial ruling against birthright citizenship was made in haste and that the 6 opposing justices will take a good hard look at this. If you think about it, DT’s wives & children wouldn’t have birthright status. Please keep us updated on the status of this!
The "majority six" on the current SCOTUS is as diabolical as their predecessors that penned Plessy v. Ferguson, and they may end up being as evil as their predecessors that penned Dred Scott (considering their track and trajectory they're on). And the vast majority of Republicans are "Confederates" at heart (which is disgustingly ironic). "Just enough of us" need to win the battle for the soul of this nation, again, in our time.
Great news Popok! There’s always a way around things so thank you Justice Sotomayor for your brilliant move, and thanks to all the lawyers out there that were ready to file class action lawsuits! Onward……
Sherrilyn Ifill on the 6/27/25 Joy Reid Show (the interview starts 13 minutes into the video) - best deep-dive explainer & discussion re: the "birthright citizenship" provision of the 14th amendment (including history and context), as well as a full context view of the Trump et. al. fascist regime (+ the enabling modern day Republicans) and their White supremacist pro-apartheid project...
My interpretation of EO 14160 is that it applies only if neither biological parent is a US citizenship or if neither is a permanent legal resident/green card holder. The EO states: citizenship will not be recognized "to persons: (1) when that person's mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the person's father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person's birth, or (2) when that person's mother's presence in the United States was lawful but temporary, and the person's father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person's birth" (Policy, Sec 2(a)).
Also: "Nothing in this order shall be construed to affect the entitlement of other individuals, including children of lawful permanent residents" (EO, Sec 2 (c)).
EO also says: "Subsection (a) [the restrictive policy statement] of this section shall apply only to persons who are born within the United States after 30 days from the date of this order" (Sec 2 (b)). As such, the policy does not affect any baby already born.
Finally, J Barrett's opinion states "S[ection] 2 of the Executive Order shall not take effect until 30 days after the date of this opinion" which was June 27, 2025. (Trump v Casa Inc, p. 26, slip op).
Given that we are in the post- Casa Inc 30-day period, let's hope the class certification will succeed as well as the temporary restraining order - thus placing the birthright policy on hold until the S Ct addresses the merits and resolves the substantive issues.
YES!!! The faster the BETTER. Trump is an ILLEGAL, CREEPY FELON. AND STUPID!!!
Why not impeach the Supreme Court for corruption and abuse of powers!!!
yes! With all the 6-3 SCOTUS findings. Doesn’t this imply partisan bias ?
If their rulings were solely based on the law, the political bias should not show like this.
Oh, I love this new little record in Substack! Normally, I listen to you when I’m driving from YouTube…But now I can do it on which I’d rather.
OK, I have to counter that very prissy comment that made me sound old!
Fuck i love u Popok— right when I just posted that America is coming to an end because six justices are complete traitors
Hey, I was asking this all day yesterday..
CAN WE FILE A CLASS ACTION OF 14th Amen Sec 3?
And it will make it to SCOTUS, and if they ignore or reject it, we have every excuse to start a rebellion . Please tell me this is feasible & our next action.
This guy filed his own suit for 14thSec3; maybe we can all join:
https://www.whatthehellareyoudoing.org/post/my-great-concern-is-not-whether-you-have-failed-but-whether-you-are-content-with-your-failure
and there is supposedly a class action suit against the election interference:
https://www.reddit.com/r/somethingiswrong2024/s/w9jqhFUfdg
Thanks Popok for explaining this to us on Legal AF. I hope that this new suit gets back to the Supreme Court and they find that their initial ruling against birthright citizenship was made in haste and that the 6 opposing justices will take a good hard look at this. If you think about it, DT’s wives & children wouldn’t have birthright status. Please keep us updated on the status of this!
Supreme Court is so crooked!!
👏👏👏👏👏👏🇺🇲👍💙
Maryland Strong! 🗽🇺🇸🗽🇺🇸🗽🇺🇸
The "majority six" on the current SCOTUS is as diabolical as their predecessors that penned Plessy v. Ferguson, and they may end up being as evil as their predecessors that penned Dred Scott (considering their track and trajectory they're on). And the vast majority of Republicans are "Confederates" at heart (which is disgustingly ironic). "Just enough of us" need to win the battle for the soul of this nation, again, in our time.
Of all the nerve! Trump is destroying my country.
Great news Popok! There’s always a way around things so thank you Justice Sotomayor for your brilliant move, and thanks to all the lawyers out there that were ready to file class action lawsuits! Onward……
I have a couple of other recommendations...
I highly recommend to read the article, on The Guardian site, titled:
We are no longer free. But we can win our freedom back.
To meet this moment in US history, we need to revisit the rich – and successful – tradition of nonviolent disruption.
Sat 14 Jun 2025
Deepak Bhargava
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/ng-interactive/2025/jun/14/history-successful-protests-oppose-authoritarianism?CMP
Also:
Sherrilyn Ifill on the 6/27/25 Joy Reid Show (the interview starts 13 minutes into the video) - best deep-dive explainer & discussion re: the "birthright citizenship" provision of the 14th amendment (including history and context), as well as a full context view of the Trump et. al. fascist regime (+ the enabling modern day Republicans) and their White supremacist pro-apartheid project...
https://www.youtube.com/live/eYDwpTLNAkw?si=HMjV-5qW0WvGXlEX
Phenomenal
Where do we sign up?
My interpretation of EO 14160 is that it applies only if neither biological parent is a US citizenship or if neither is a permanent legal resident/green card holder. The EO states: citizenship will not be recognized "to persons: (1) when that person's mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the person's father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person's birth, or (2) when that person's mother's presence in the United States was lawful but temporary, and the person's father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person's birth" (Policy, Sec 2(a)).
Also: "Nothing in this order shall be construed to affect the entitlement of other individuals, including children of lawful permanent residents" (EO, Sec 2 (c)).
EO also says: "Subsection (a) [the restrictive policy statement] of this section shall apply only to persons who are born within the United States after 30 days from the date of this order" (Sec 2 (b)). As such, the policy does not affect any baby already born.
Finally, J Barrett's opinion states "S[ection] 2 of the Executive Order shall not take effect until 30 days after the date of this opinion" which was June 27, 2025. (Trump v Casa Inc, p. 26, slip op).
Given that we are in the post- Casa Inc 30-day period, let's hope the class certification will succeed as well as the temporary restraining order - thus placing the birthright policy on hold until the S Ct addresses the merits and resolves the substantive issues.
(Comments and corrections welcome.)
Can't make it to a protest today, so I'm going to stop on Good News and work in my yard. It's a beautiful day in So Cal.